The History of Beliefs
Excerpts from a talk after lunch at FalconBlanco
Comment: …People are still shocked after the 11M happening and they are talking about nothing else, also in TV they are still commenting about it every day, even though two weeks have passed.
BeiYin: Yes, there have been strong reactions and in the days after the 11M, then there were eleven million Spanish people showing their reaction by demonstrating in the street. At the same time when this happened then there was another kind of demonstration between the reporting of the tragic happenings, when the TV program was switching to publicity. The discrepancy between the actual happening and the tone of the consumer advertisements, with all those pretended happiness and the promises for more satisfaction when buying those products, were a clear demonstration of the falseness of this consumer society. It couldn't show up more obviously. Could it be, that in this life style and its attitude, also lays the root and reason for the actual tragic happening? It needs only a little step to come to this conclusion, although the blinders which protect people, will avoid the recognition of concrete facts…
Gabriel: Meanwhile the guilty ones are identified…
BeiYin: They were named a few hours after the happening – without any proof. And in the following days the names of the bad guys were changed several times, until there appeared some proving facts; so that the need to find the guilty ones is fulfilled? Then there is no question left open? Is this all?
Laura: There is a lot of suffering caused by this happening and people need to release their fear and sadness, so they are demonstrating and looking for the guilty ones and the authorities are obliged to find them…
BeiYin: That's right, but also it should give a push to look at one's own position in it. Might there be something in one's personal actions in life that is adding to the cause in it's totality by not being aware of one's attitude, behavior and beliefs? It is tragic that there were killed 200 innocent people and it is tragic because they were killed intentionally, although we don't know what the intention behind this cruel doing is. Nobody knows and nobody is talking about it. The happening is causing fear and disturbance, probably this is the real reason why eleven million people spontaneously were demonstrating. So it was not the fact because two hundred people were killed? So then it becomes clear why people are not demonstrating for those people killed every day on the roads, even the number is hundred times bigger, this is not causing an impact on people, the same with the thousands of innocent people dying every day because of starvation and the thousands of innocent people dying of all kind of diseases. Every day thousands are dying, day after day. Who is demonstrating for those people? Who is asking for the cause of the death of all those innocent people?
Betsy: I think the reason people are moved to demonstrate (and vote!) after a happening such as this is because it's easier for them to look behind and visualize the terrorist and the resulting victims. In the other case, people would have to investigate and look near to become aware of the thousands dying daily and also to find out who could be responsible or who is the terrorist behind it. So it seems to me the reason is because people prefer to react versus going to all the effort to question what is happening around them daily. Yes, so like you say, an event like this provokes people to express their pent up fear and feelings, but probably what is being expressed doesn't have so much to do with the actual happening, it goes much deeper.
Julia: This is part of our daily life. In a way it doesn't matter, life goes on. I believe that there is a higher plan and every thing fits into this.
BeiYin: This is your belief that gives you enough security, otherwise this world would be too cruel which doesn't make sense and would be impossible to take. So believing in a higher plan we can go on with our daily life, somehow worried but we don't need to doubt and to ask…
Julia: Yes, this is my belief and it makes sense to me. Every one has one's beliefs, right? I have my beliefs and you have yours…
BeiYin: I don't need any belief. I can live with the fact that there are things I simply don't know. I don't need to know every thing. If something shows up I don't understand, that means: which doesn't fit in the wholeness of my view, then I can search about it trying to connect it with my experiences. If I can't, then I leave it open. It is enough for me to pronounce the question, then the answer will show up. If you tell me something I don't know, I can listen to it without having any opinion about it and I can ask myself if I can use this information in this moment. If your belief might give a creative solution to my situation then I can prove it by investigating about it and then trying it, for this I don't need to believe what you are telling me. Or I have an experience and knowledge coming out of a realization in my personal life. Then this is no belief, right? Your beliefs consist in having concepts about things how they should or might be and you can try to accomplish these concepts, but having those concepts often inhibits to do the step of realization. Part of the concept often is that it depends on a Divine plan and that we can't do anything about it… I don't want to convince you of anything and I don't want that you let go of any concept you have. You are right: they are yours.
Julia: But there are things I can't prove. My belief comes out of a long tradition, people believed in it for centuries. I believe that there is a truth behind even though I can't prove it.
BeiYin: Yes, beliefs have a long tradition, the same with all the power games people have used to manipulate others for one's own purpose. Convincing people of a certain belief or life style and then using all means to eliminate resistance or in a more sophisticated manner by using one's knowledge giving people what they want, confirming them in their already owned concepts or creating new ones which add something desirable to the old ones. In any case creating dependency and keeping people tailored and quiet – and then selling them all the stuff so that they feel good, being addicted to what they are used: dear habits...
Julia: From a higher plan it doesn't matter that there are killed people, behind this there is a Divine plan we are not capable to understand, so we need to believe in it.
Betsy: I see that holding the belief of there being a Divine Plan mainly allows the feeling that we are being taken care of and all is 'right' somehow. Basically, it allows that we don't have to accept ownership as a group, for killing these people, we can distance ourselves from it and say it's part of the plan. Then we don't have to realize that 'we' are the one's writing the Divine Plan as we go, and that our actions as a group are what caused the deaths of these people. What we're not seeing is our interconnectedness. To stop the killing 'we' have to change, to modify the divine plan.
BeiYin: Let's come down a bit and use an example from our daily reality to demonstrate what the ‘plan behind’ is: Let's say that there is an enterprise which is fabricating alimentation, we might call it ‘junk food’. It looks tempting in its nice package, it tastes good, it is easy to prepare, it has a composition of a lot of additives and this kind of food is in fact making people sick. There is spent a lot of money to convince people that this food is desirable and so people buy it. Then on the long run people get sick. But this doesn't matter, because this is part of the ‘divine plan’ because another member of the ‘plan’ will sell the appropriate chemical remedies for the appearing diseases. They intend not to heal, but rather to eliminate symptoms to keep the person alive so that he/she is kept as a consumer for many years. Going on consuming junk food, so serving the ‘plan’ and then also serving the plan buying medication. So there is no doubt that the higher plan is to keep people as sheep, taking their wool and whatever they have to give, and guiding them with a strong hand so that they go where they find the food they need to grow - although ending up in the slaughter house…
Julia: But people have their free will…
BeiYin: Yes, this is part of their belief: They can make “Baahhh or beeeehhhh or buuuhh” but they are running one after the other and in case one separates from the herd then the watch dog comes and chases the sheep back. Our system is well established and organized.
Gabriel: The established system protects their people from outside attacks and from inside disturbance, things are well organized and the given rules have their strict purpose serving every body. This is what we call civilization and of course we have a long tradition in it that we can be proud of. Who doesn't like it can go to live in the trees of the jungle together with the monkeys.
Laura: I don't feel so sure about this what you call “being well organized”. Isn't the chaotic happening a sign that there's something all wrong about it? Is not the rising number of diseases a clear sign that our life style is unhealthy? It looks obvious that we need to ask ourselves what it is that is causing the problems and not to believe what we are told. Giving the fault to an outside reason seems to be too simple.
Gabriel: But I prefer to see it that simple, why should I complicate my life more than it is anyway?
Günther: I have to deal with enough difficulties. When I repair a motor then this is a challenge, it is quite complicated and I am satisfied and happy when it is done and the motor runs again. That's true: I don't need to complicate my life even more…
BeiYin: We know that things hardly ever are what they seem to be, there is always a hidden aspect, but if we don't question things then we will not be able to find out about the cause, to find a possible solution and we will not be able to change anything, with this I mean in the first place one's personal problems.
Julia: I still believe in the tradition of our beliefs. We all benefit from it and we survived until now. It still makes sense and we can trust in it as we are progressing and growing. I believe the Divine Plan functions even though we don't understand it, but I am convinced we can trust in it.
BeiYin: Did all people benefit from it or just certain people? Can we dare to question the well established tradition of beliefs? Wasn't an authority always used to establish a belief? Has it ever happened that a belief was autonomous and not connected with the ruling government? Who were the founders of our traditional beliefs? From where did the religious beliefs come from?
Julia: Obviously, from the teachings of Jesus. These teachings were written down by his disciples and are the base of the beliefs in our days and all the different branches of Christian beliefs.
BeiYin: When Jesus arrived there was already a traditional belief system established and parts of this were religious beliefs. I don't know how Jesus was relating to this but obviously he was questioning the given concepts and he found his own way of realization of truth. He had a vision coming out of his personal realization and he felt responsible to share this, expressing his new view to people trapped in the traditional concepts. He found people who were listening to him and a few followed him. When more people gave him attention and he started to talk even in front of the temples of the established system then of course the presiding priests didn't like it and denounced him to the governing authorities as initiating a conspiracy. Then they arrested him and following the tradition of defending the established system, they killed him. Has anything changed since then? It served the political system in those days, to use whatever happened as a way to manipulate the different power tendencies and they used the growing new belief for their own purpose. From this they established a new belief system by doing their own interpretation so that it conformed well to the existing power structure. Later, other branches split off, continuing on up to the present with its many congregations and sects. [Sorry, that I needed to squeeze two thousand years into a few sentences…] Of course in our days our religious belief system is not purely Christian, it is influenced from other world religions and as a conglomerate it is called ‘New Age beliefs’. Now people say that they are not religious but that they are ‘spiritual’. The label is different but nothing has changed, still they are identified and depending on a belief system, not being realized in their daily life. Anyway the realization is not the question; it is enough to have a strong, well rooted belief system confirmed by one's knowledge, experiences and other like-minded people… Right?
Günther: When I have a few drinks then I am happy, when I smoke a joint then I feel spiritual… Gabriel: The most important is that people are content and find a more essential sense in their life than they get out of what the material orientated social system offers. Each of us must find one's own way to deal with life and it's problems…
BeiYin: I don't think this is the most important, and I don't think that people are really content. They are longing for more than concepts - even though it's also true that most people are stuck in materialistic or spiritual concepts - it doesn't really matter which kind of concepts. Indeed, we all need to find our individual way to confront life's challenge, this should be a creative way by responding and relating and not by making oneself numb or by escaping with one of the many offered ways coming from the consumer society.
Julia: I believe that there exists a higher power which guides us, even though we don't know about it from experience, but I believe that it is just necessary to believe strongly in it and this by itself allows a certain openness so that from there influences can guide us. We can't be made responsible for everything that happens and for the power games and manipulations from governments and multinationals. I am convinced that there have always been people who have realized their religious concepts and lived it in their daily life. Also it is true that from the beginning the religious concepts were used to manipulate people as a part of the fight for more power. We know that millions of people were killed in many wars over many centuries and all under the name of God, Love and Peace, pretending to bring Truth and the true belief to people, but in reality to take their land, their resources and making them into slaves. Obviously nothing has changed. The only change one can make is to realize one's own truth and take care of oneself by relating to the given situation in one's daily life.
BeiYin: Yes, that's it. Relating and responding to whatever shows up in one's personal life; by being aware what reactions it is causing and then making one's decision out of it, which will bring an action, which hopefully will come out of love. Not because it is part of the religious concept but out of the feeling of being connected and not separated from other human beings.
Laura: I see that beliefs are somehow connected with the social system and understand how and why beliefs developed. What I don't understand is how can beliefs be used by authorities to keep people in dependency?
BeiYin: The history of beliefs is closely connected with the history of dependency. From the beginning of mankind people were afraid of the unknown. The fear was much less if a name was given to the unknown with some kind of explication. This was always used by the more clever ones to gain power: The first medicine man might have told the frightened people that the thunder came from an angry big man sitting behind the clouds called thunder god and it would be good to give him something to calm him down. So people gave something they owned and the clever man/woman had his/her profit, etc. So whatever negative happened, he/she had an explication and finding the solution; in this way gaining a power position as an authority.
Laura: But why do people depend so much on authority and don't try to find out themselves?
BeiYin: Because people are immature; not only individually in their personality but also humanity as a species. All problems result because of this reason! The need to be guided is indeed closely connected with the need of having beliefs. An example: a small child depends totally on its parents. They tell their child what to do and what not to do. They tell the reason why and why not, but often this is not possible as the child is too small and can't understand. So the child has to believe what the parents say, it is not capable to make one's own experiences, this would be life threatening. The child likes to be dependent and it can grow in a frame of security. Everything goes well if the child gets enough attention. If not then the first games show up: the child asks for more attention by pretending to need help or it is producing incidents to get the attention needed. In general one can say that people like to be dependent and they accept authority without resistance, as long as they have established a frame in which they get enough self confirmation. If this framework, for one or the other reason is disturbed, then also the problems with authority start. This is a very complex subject and a necessary investigation one has to do in one's personal journey of self-discovery. This indeed is real work, but I guess you wouldn't be here if you wouldn't be ready for it and if you could read up to here then this also tells something…
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