Robby:
Instead of going for
Enlightenment, for most of us, life is what we do.
BeiYin:
Life
- to be lived
Life
is what we are
life
is what we do
what
we feel - what we think.
Life
is what makes us cry
what
makes us laugh.
Life
is our mistakes
and
the finding of truth.
Striving
for a goal
might
motivate us
life
is the path
wherever
it goes
Life
is the stones
hurting
my feed
Life
is my suffering.
What
else can I do
than
keep going
to
wherever the way guides me
can
I do more
than
responding to what shows up?
Goals
might be just wishful fantasies
losing
their importance while walking
The
hurting stones remind me
to
pay attention to each step I take
opening
myself to details beside the road
enjoying
the shade under a tree
and
the beauty of a greeting flower
I
am becoming addicted to life.
BeiYin
14.
7. 1999
Robby: It ís an expensive habit.
We are all too busy sucked into everyday life to use it to become enlightened.
We are as addicted to our doing in everyday life as the junkie is to the
heroin.
BeiYin:
That's
right, people are very busy with their everyday lives. They are sucked
by it perhaps all their life time. That is their lives. Who is going to
judge? One who has taken 'enlightenment' as a goal in one's life, might
feel special and selected from the mass of lost people, but the path to
this goal will show, that it is just another kind of survival technique
for one's personality.
Robby: It ís easy to see that
the junkie and the alcoholic are throwing life away, fix after fix and
drink after drink. They are using those substances to avoid their feelings,
or to feel ok with those feelings. By doing that, they are avoiding parts
what we consider life to be.
BeiYin:
We
are all throwing life away by not responding to life, by not relating to
what shows up in this very moment. But everybody does as good as he/she
can. We all are avoiding certain feelings, what we have to learn is to
deal with them in a creative way and not to hide ourselves or to cover
those feelings. As long we are identified with our feelings (and thoughts)
and living towards a goal, what is nothing more than an image, an idea
or a concept, we will have feelings that we will not like; because these
are reactions of what provokes the daily reality. So those goals are the
cause for part of our frustration and we react in a negative, defensive
way, to hold on our goals. It doesn't really matter if this is the sophisticated
goal of enlightenment or just the simple wish to feel good.
Who is going to separate
life into portions? The businessmen want us make believe that we can buy
portions of life when we buy their products! And there are others, they
are called 'gurus' and they want to sell us enlightenment, they are nearly
as clever as salesmen, convincing us to adapt their techniques, philosophies,
etc.
Robby: On the other hand, the effects
of those substances are life for them. Do they evolve through pain and
suffering? How different is that from others?
BeiYin:
Right,
it seems the only way humanity can evolve is through pain and suffering.
What makes it so difficult is that humanity obviously is still on such
a primitive level, that they have developed many survival techniques to
avoid pain and suffering, instead of using reactions such as pain and suffering
in a creative way. Is it that there is not yet enough information available
to deal with it? There is information available, but obviously nobody is
(yet) interested. (For example: I wrote about thirty comments in the last
few weeks in various news groups and there was not even one response! )
Robby: Buddha said that existence
is painful.
BeiYin:
For
sure this is a mistaken interpretation. Existence is not painful. Existence
becomes painful because of our personal reaction to reality.
Robby: We all want to escape pain,
most people choose the path of denial/distraction.
BeiYin:
Exactly,
that's the reason why 'existence is painful', people haven't yet learned
to relate in a creative way, not to what shows up in life and not to their
own reaction.
Robby:
Only a few of us choose the
path of enlightenment to escape the pain.
BeiYin:
With
the new age movement and the 'american spirituality' which is also using
the Internet to find followers, the number is growing pretty strong and
even their slogans are entered into the consuming world.
Robby: Enlightenment is the only
sure way, nothing else works.
BeiYin:
This
you say because you are convinced, and you have chosen this survival method.
You can't say that nothing else works, or have you tried every thing available?
For sure you haven't finished up to its end the method of 'enlightenment',
otherwise you would know that you are trapped in an illusion and there
isn't another way to enlightenment than life itself.
Robby: The most powerful drugs, the
most lavish lifestyles all fail eventually. Not even death brings relief.
The unfulfilled desires from this life require more lives to bring them
to completion. The path of denial/distraction involves turning away from
the pain of existence; that is why it fails. Everywhere you turn, there
is existence, so there is no escape from the pain.
BeiYin: You
have adapted a certain quite sofisticated dogma, check if this is really
still valuable.
Robby: The path people have taken
becomes a matter of numbing themselves. It's death of one's life plan,
no matter what one choose as the numbing agent, there can't be success
on this path, failure is guaranteed.
BeiYin: Failure
is guaranteed on whatever path, as long there is a goal in one's mind.
'Personality' is bound to goals, success, motivation, defense, confirmation,
etc. Failures are stepping stones on our path. We move creatively forward
and we are not loosing energy by fighting against unfavorable circumstances
because they might be in contrary of our images, goals, etc.
Robby: Existence is everywhere as
we are turning around ourselves, so then why does enlightenment work? It
works because it produces non-involvement with existence. Paradoxically,
it is the total involvement with existence that produces the pain in the
first place. No involvement, no pain. Pain doesn't get generated, so no
denial/distraction/numbing is required. It is the involvement of the denial
path that requires lifetime after lifetime. Without involvement, no lives
are necessary. Its a matter of choice. On the path of enlightenment, existence
itself is an illusion to be dispelled, nothing more. The engine of existence
runs on the fuel of desire. It doesn't matter if that desire is for true
love from another person, a Rolls Royce, a yate, a new toy, or anything
else.
BeiYin:
Pretty
week dogma you are presenting and this seems to be clear by now so no further
comment is necessary.
Robby:
On the path of enlightenment,
they are all equally illusion producing.
BeiYin: Your
dogma of the 'path of enlightenment' is also 'illusion producing'.
Robby: Does this mean we should cease
all activity and go into navel gazing? No, we are all here for a purpose,
and one of the first steps on the path of enlightenment is to discover
that purpose and get
on with it.
BeiYin:
To be able to find out about the purpose of life
one must be enlightened and as this is still an illusion, so let's drop
this idea and go on with our lives just in the ways we are capable. Just
as normal, simple not yet enlightened human beings, nevertheless being
responsible and trying our best. But we will avoid to follow anybody who
is promising too much and using words which sound great but are part of
misty concepts.
Robby: After all, where we live is
the manifested universe! We have inner stillness in the midst of activity
and chaos to keep things in perspective.
BeiYin:
Indeed,
good for the one who has inner stillness and even those who don't have
it can look forward and trust that life will contribute all they need to
fulfill their purpose - whatever this might be!
Robby: Guess
we need a new paradigm that isn't based in duality. Any suggestions?
BeiYin:
Drop
your head - let go
let your heart
be aware - beam
no words needed
- no digm
relate to what
shows up - now
connect your
hands with your heart - go on
take a bucked
and water the plants - do it
expressing life
through your personality - be it
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